Sunday, October 28, 2007

On the whole girlfriend and marriage thing.

Hey all, credits go to Voddie Baucham and the 722 Series on Love & Marriage. I know we're all at the age of looking for girlfriends, so I thought I could shed some light on the biblical perspective on what to EXPECT of a potential mate.

Verses come from Eph 5:22-24...and more surrounding it.

22Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord. 23For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior. 24Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

So this is the whole submission verse that most Christian guys know. And they hear it, and think marriage is a pretty sweet gig. The wife has to be submissive to the male. Can I get an AMEN?! That's where the logic usually stops....but there is more to this than meets the eye.

These two verses, are actually part of a set..in fact, part of the verse above it. In v21.

21Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.

The Eph 5:22-24 part is actually part of a huge section: Eph 5:22 - Eph 6:9. It's the ways on how we submit to one another out of reverence to Christ:
1. Wives submit to Husbands.
2. Children submit to Parents.
3. Slaves submit to Masters.

The Bible doesn't acknowledge the idea of boyfriends and girlfriends. Girlfriends don't have to be submissive to boyfriends. HOWEVER, she must be submissive to her FATHER until married.

So what you should be looking for in a girl..
1. A girl who submits to Christ.
2. A girl who submits to the authority that God has placed over her. (Father...if not there...Mother...if not there...Uncle...Aunt...Older Brother, etc.)
3. A girl who submits to the Biblical view of marriage. (Titus 2:3-5)

Cheers,
Richard

7 comments:

richard said...
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richard said...

Wow that was longer than I thought.. Too heavy for a devo?

FYI, from a video series..if anyone is interested..4 episodes, I can procure if necessary, used to be online streaming, but it's a little older (2005), so no more dl.

Anyways, my thoughts...

I have always had an aversion towards the marriage and girlfriend topics. My ideas tend to deviate from the norm, and in the past I have had no problem letting people know. Even so, I was slowly finding that it wasn't worth the effort to try to dispel the myths of marriage.

I think right now, I am at a point that I can honestly say that it may be easier to not marry as the socio-economic climate dictates that marriage isn't worth it for men. However, this sermon gave me hope. Society has corrupted and changed God's intention of marriage into something grotesque. Diving back into the Word to see what He had originally planned has given me hope.

If anyone is interested in talking more about such things, I'll be glad to oblige.

Richard rbk(3)

Side bar: Apparently deleting a comment, means it has that stupid message above.

Anonymous said...

Very well laid out devo, not too heavy at all - something I think we can all benefit from.

Perhaps this is something we can touch on in a more practical level, specifically with looking for girlfriends, or even blatantly hitting on girls who you are interested in.

Aside from that, my views on dating & relationships are... pretty on par with the scripture. However in my case I do feel the pressure in becoming the "spiritual head" of the house. Considering her family background and her basically having a 10 year head start in theological / scriptural studies, it's a little bit intimidating sometimes to see my future self in that idealistic role as a husband.

Hopefully this encourages not just myself, but EVERYONE to dig deeper this year in trying to become a man of God, who breathes His word and GORGES on spiritual nurishment.... in the hopes that someday we can ALL be the spiritual head of the house and not get pwnd by our wives in bible studies, scriptures & prayer life.

- Jono Rbk(2)

Anonymous said...

Thanks for the advice? I don't know, as for my views for relationships, i tend to look par with the scriptures, but right now i might as well stay single...

I really like this passage, not because of the whole wife and husband part, but the church summiting to God, this may seem obvious, but a really important part of life.

Richard Chan Rbk (3)

Anonymous said...

I think to have a Godly woman submit to someone, you first yourself have to become a Godly man WORTHY of being submitted to. What does that mean? well thats up to everyone's interpretation. I am currently working on myself to make myself worthy of a woman placed in my life by God.

I sometimes don't like this verse mostly because a lot of guys misinterpret it and pretty much boss the wife around. A marriage (relationship) is one that is a triangle, with the couple as two of the corners and God at the top. The closer you two draw closer to each other, the closer you draw closer to God, its simple Geometry. Leave it to jacky to bring in the maths.

I have a lot more to share about this topic, perhaps i'll save it for the next GUYS SG! woot woot!

-jacky rbk (3)

ps. man, pray for me. i've getting tempted left and right and all i can do right now is just close my eyes and not look / think about it. rbk keep me in check!
woot woot

Anonymous said...

Not long at all, and a very good devo especially since we're on this rbk mission together.

To me, there are soo many points that I agree with. I agree with what Jacky has just mentioned that WE all MUST be Godly man WORTHY to be submitted to. I guess for me, I have been a little socially conditioned or tendered heart where I kinda feel that at times, we won't be the "spiritual" head, and we will be led by our wives. For me, it's a team thing right.. at times I'll be stronger and at times she'll be stronger. And together, we'll lean/push each other following Him. Am I wrong here? But I do understand that there's a need for us to be the "spiritual" head.

I wanna share with you guys what my friend has said or quoted before..

"A woman’s heart should be planted so deep in Him that a man should have to look for God to find it."

Brian Yee -> rbk(3)

Anonymous said...

relationships are such a bother sometimes.. but some of us just cant live without it =P

I'm looking at my own family, and i dont see this male spiritual head of the house thing going on. But its because of that, its causing problems in my family.. disunity if you may, but yea..

marriage now-a-days is so distorted that even churches are starting to give Christianity a bad name. but as for me.. if i were to date.. i date with a marriage idea in head.. meaning i wouldn't just go out with anyone just for the heck of it.. but i pray that God will show me someone who will be able to keep me accountable, someone who can help me and i help them grow in Christ as well. In the end.. its all up to God.


Btw.. jacky.. its an isosceles triangle =P

-Jon